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gaypornninja1) I watched Superman/Batman Apocalypse - It was decent enough.
2) I watched most of the Avengers: Earth's Mightest Heroes and it was ~awesome~ though perhaps they should stop acting like Tony is a moron and duct tape Hank's mouth shut. I'm hoping they keep adding Avengers until Peter, Clint, and Danny are all on the team and it becomes the show of BAD JOKE DAY EVERY DAY.
3) I watched Mystery of the Batwoman. auguhggwreg. He spent the whole time worrying about who the fucking Batwoman was and totally ignored that the Penguin was smuggling weapons. FORGET THE CHICK WHO IS WEARING YOUR OUTFIT DUDE AND DO YOUR JOB.
3) I was reading a Cracked article about the Batcave and I think they pinpointed exactly why I don't like the movies so much - the idea that if you're competent enough you don't need anyone else which is the exact opposite point of the comics.
4) They made a movie about Grant Morrison. Netflix doesn't let you swear in reviews. I don't see why.
5) And I see on the reviews of said GM movie some dude saying to read Final Crisis. People, this is why no one wants to start reading comics because instead of saying NEW PERSON HERE READ SOME BATMAN AND STUFF AND I'LL GET YOU A TIME LINE instead they say HERE READ A VERY DIFFICULT TO FOLLOW STORYLINE THAT REQUIRES YOU TO HAVE MEMORIZED HALF THE DC CHARACTER BANK, KNOW THEIR BACKSTORIES, AND WAS WRITTEN BY A LAZY DRUG ADDICT BECAUSE GOD KNOWS PEOPLE READ COMICS FOR POST-STRUCTURALISM THEORIES ON SUPERHEROES.
The next person that does this is legally required to buy volume one of Blue Beetle to give to a friend for free. And don't give me shit about how many people bought Final Crisis. I read the blogs afterwards, even the hardcore reading comics for twenty years crazy people hated it.
2) I watched most of the Avengers: Earth's Mightest Heroes and it was ~awesome~ though perhaps they should stop acting like Tony is a moron and duct tape Hank's mouth shut. I'm hoping they keep adding Avengers until Peter, Clint, and Danny are all on the team and it becomes the show of BAD JOKE DAY EVERY DAY.
3) I watched Mystery of the Batwoman. auguhggwreg. He spent the whole time worrying about who the fucking Batwoman was and totally ignored that the Penguin was smuggling weapons. FORGET THE CHICK WHO IS WEARING YOUR OUTFIT DUDE AND DO YOUR JOB.
3) I was reading a Cracked article about the Batcave and I think they pinpointed exactly why I don't like the movies so much - the idea that if you're competent enough you don't need anyone else which is the exact opposite point of the comics.
4) They made a movie about Grant Morrison. Netflix doesn't let you swear in reviews. I don't see why.
5) And I see on the reviews of said GM movie some dude saying to read Final Crisis. People, this is why no one wants to start reading comics because instead of saying NEW PERSON HERE READ SOME BATMAN AND STUFF AND I'LL GET YOU A TIME LINE instead they say HERE READ A VERY DIFFICULT TO FOLLOW STORYLINE THAT REQUIRES YOU TO HAVE MEMORIZED HALF THE DC CHARACTER BANK, KNOW THEIR BACKSTORIES, AND WAS WRITTEN BY A LAZY DRUG ADDICT BECAUSE GOD KNOWS PEOPLE READ COMICS FOR POST-STRUCTURALISM THEORIES ON SUPERHEROES.
The next person that does this is legally required to buy volume one of Blue Beetle to give to a friend for free. And don't give me shit about how many people bought Final Crisis. I read the blogs afterwards, even the hardcore reading comics for twenty years crazy people hated it.
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Date: 2011-01-16 11:29 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-01-17 12:42 am (UTC)Mostly I kept wishing Kon-el were there too, but I wish that basically all the time.
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Date: 2011-01-17 12:47 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-01-17 01:12 am (UTC)Did you watch the Hellboy ones?
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Date: 2011-01-17 01:39 am (UTC)Here's the ones I can remember that I watched (apparently I was going for a Batman theme):
Batman vs. Dracula
Stan Lee Presents: Mosaic
Stan Lee: The Condor
Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths
Justice League: The New Frontier
Superman/Batman: Apocalypse
Superman/Batman: Public Enemies
Batman: Gotham Knight
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Date: 2011-01-17 01:48 am (UTC)Not seen.
Not seen.
Not Seen.
Seen - and there are a lot of interesting things about Earth Three.
Seen.
Seen.
Seen - I didn't like the art in that one so much.
Seen and Own.
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Date: 2011-01-17 12:40 am (UTC)This is a joke. Please laugh.
Date: 2011-01-17 01:05 am (UTC)Okay! Batman Time Line.
1939: Bob Kane invents Batman.
1940: They add Robin so the comic is more accessible to children but mostly because Batman needs a hug and reason to get out of bed in the morning other than to punch people.
Some strange person claims Batman and Robin comics are making people gay. Batman denies this claim, but doesn't stop sleeping in the same bed as Robin because let's face it, Robin is adorable and bendy. Someone invents a comics code, which haunts us all to this day though Speedy is telling me he kind of tossed it when he started doing heroin anyway.
Various shit happens. Then they make a campy tv show. In reaction to the campy tv show, Frank Miller writes a dark edgy comic that swings the Batman franchise over in the other direction. The comic spends the next several years attempting to gain some balance so Batman can be bad ass without being a guy absolutely everyone would punch in the face at first meeting.
Devin Grayson writes an issue of Gotham Knights were Bruce Wayne goes around committing random acts of kindness and for the first time ever I really, truly like Bruce Wayne.
Batman creates a spy satellite because some of his fellow Leaguers messed with his memory. He does this despite knowing that the last time he made plans against the JLA Ras stole them and used them against the league. Batman does this anyway, because the League spying was all a huge front and the satellite is mostly used to stalk Dick. This is also the reason Tim Drake and Barbara Gorden never shut the satellite down or mentioned it to anyone. THIS MAKES TOTAL SENSE BECAUSE IT IS DICK. SEE?
[Supergirl makes a comment in an animation such as I sensed you by your heartbeat, but I was wrong, you don't have a heart.
I say, okay, #1 Batman doesn't care and #2 He has a heart, it's just detachable and named Nightwing and it also beats up bad guys, that's how cool Batman is.]
Present Day. Bruce hugs Tim and tells him to have fun because he and Dick have switched personalities as a little prank. I make happy noises. Then Batman declares that everyone will be Batman.
Batman hangs around in front of his computer secure in the knowledge that he has a reason to get out of bed in the morning other than to punch people.
The Future: Terry steals the Batsuit and puts it on...shit WRONG CANON LINE SORRY unless we follow the Brave and Bold and Damian helps to train Terry...wait which earth are we on again? /looks outside/ Everyone is a woman. Okay, I have to go find the female version of Kyle Rayner. bbl.
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Date: 2011-01-17 01:17 am (UTC)http://www.batmantrades.com/ ----> I'd read about 1/3 of these and seen half the movies I think. Some of this stuff is difficult to find now. I don't think that's all the Elseworlds.
http://batman.wikia.com/wiki/Batman's_career_timeline
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Date: 2011-01-18 12:57 am (UTC)If you want I mean
Date: 2011-01-18 01:57 am (UTC)Try Batman general: http://plus4chan.org/b/coq/res/58314.html
The main thing is just scroll through the pages until you find a topic you want, then hit reply and it will open up all the replies under that topic. Then you can reply to a specific comment or just add something.
I'm sort of saddened by the fact that I can recognize virtually every artist in there just by style. I probably need to go outside every once in awhile.
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Date: 2011-01-18 01:59 am (UTC)http://plus4chan.org/b/coq/src/129061940441.jpg
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Date: 2011-01-17 04:32 am (UTC)Don't open this at work okay
Date: 2011-01-18 12:57 am (UTC)Also:
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Date: 2011-01-18 04:57 am (UTC)Re: Don't open this at work okay
Date: 2011-01-18 05:01 am (UTC)It's the Clark/Batman thread. Someone put up every S/B picture they had in this file:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6EG6E9MH
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Date: 2011-01-19 05:21 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-01-17 12:22 am (UTC)I got 3+4 of BB the other day, weeeeeeeee.
HI, HOW ARE YA. :D
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Date: 2011-01-17 12:38 am (UTC):D :D :D I AM SO HAPPY TO HEAR THIS.
HI! I AM FINE! RIGHT NOW I AM ATTEMPTING TO PHOTOSHOP A BOOK CALLED DICK: A USER'S GUIDE. I AM SURE YOU CAN WORK OUT WHY.
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Date: 2011-01-17 01:20 am (UTC)ME TOO. \\JAIME// Got 2 and 3 of CHEW, too, but we had to send 3 back because it was damaged. Boo, Indigo, BOOO.
I LIKE THIS BOOK ALREADY.
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Date: 2011-01-17 01:33 am (UTC)CHEW?
hee. Yes.
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Date: 2011-01-17 01:39 am (UTC)Chew is about a guy who is psychic through TASTE... it's pretty awesome/gory/interesting - I've only read the first volume so far, so idk.
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Date: 2011-01-17 01:49 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-01-17 06:44 pm (UTC)Also I was sad because one of my favorite things to come out of that storyline was Bruce sort of kind of becoming a second "Dad" to Kara. From what I remember he doesn't ever get to really like her that much, but she still comes to him for advice when she doesn't feel like she can talk to someone as "good" as Clark, and when she needs money she sells some alien device to him, and she even kisses him on the cheek and he lets her. It was super-cute. Did they ever really acknowledge that Batman decided that she was something slightly more than a bomb waiting to go off? I can't remember, I think I fast-forwarded through a lot of that movie to save myself.
Nobody should read Final Crisis. Nobody should ever read Final Crisis. Along with all the other stupid, there was that whole random pointless thing in the middle where Superman gets all meta and meets a bunch of other Supermans and then fights, like, the conceptualization of Superman? And Destiny's book was in there but they didn't actually call it that? And Superman was, like, oh my god, the greatest man/hero/thing of all time and his goodness was just so overwhelming that he saved the universe? Only the whole thing was this total random sidetrack that didn't have any effect on the overall storyline except to cure Lois even though they only injured her in the first place so that that side storyline could happen. WHAT.
I'm sure Grant Morrison has written some perfectly acceptable things, but until someone staples me into a chair and forces me to read them, then I'm pretty much going to resent him forever for that piece of fuckery.
(long diatribe was looooong.)
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Date: 2011-01-17 11:51 pm (UTC)That was actually what I liked the least. The problem is I don't believe that Superman is actually that great. You know who is? CAPTAIN AMERICA. Steve has it so far over Clark, it's not funny. So for me reading that was just such a period of disbelief for me. Plus, it's the same thing he always does - there are some cool, really cool ideas in his work, but he never follows through because he's lazy. He only wants to write the interesting stuff, and then he slacks off on everything else.
It's good that other people are taking some of the ideas and moving on. BoP was doing that, badly, for awhile, and RR is doing it. IT WAS ACTUALLY INTERESTING AND SHIT. In fact, my comics were all good. I'm a little afraid.
I actually have not liked any of the work Morrison has done so far, and I've read a lot of it. Tomasi is taking over Batman and Robin though so I might be able to read it! Though I am still anti-Dick as Batman because Dick should be Nightwing. I did enjoy Bruce being all, shut up Damian you can't be my Robin ever, be Dick's Robin and leave me alone.
I was like CALLED IT BABY. I called his redheaded friend too, which actually was strange but eh, he should have a Roy to play with too.
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Date: 2011-01-18 04:36 am (UTC)He only wants to write the interesting stuff, and then he slacks off on everything else.
YES THIS. It never goes anywhere! Argh, crazymaking.
I... am in now way up on current comics stuff. I just saw your comics day reviews so kinda? But mostly I'm gonna wait to see if anything good makes it to trades and then go from there. Maybe it's 'cause I didn't grow up with them but for some reason it drives me crazy to read individual issues; it just doesn't feel right in my hands or something. Plus reading one at a time makes me want to bash my head against a wall; I can read Entertainment Weekly and it takes me twice as long. So there's that.
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Date: 2011-01-18 04:57 am (UTC)YES THIS. It never goes anywhere! Argh, crazymaking.
Thank you, because if you had said that is part of his post-modern style, I would have started cussing. [Not at you, just a lot] EVERY TIME HE DOES THIS. THE INVISIBLES MADE ME WANT TO CRY BLOOD. I still don't understand what Batman RIP was supposed to be about because I gave up halfway through. He's basically stated that he doesn't like writing any exposition or extra writing, and if people can't follow his work, he just thinks they're idiots. I always feel bad for his artists because they must be half insane after he's done.
I mean, Warren Ellis does the amazing ideas and then writes the rest of the fucking comic! This is why I read Warren Ellis comics and attempt to set fire to Morrison comics.
That's fair, most people do trades now. Comics are getting too difficult for non-serious fans anyway, because in order to understand something, you have to have read a lot already, and they fucking cross over everything now. I know I missed a lot of stuff in Red Robin, and a lot of extra Kon stuff because I wasn't reading Batman and Robin and all that Mon-el et al stuff but I just wasn't interested and it irritates me that they do that.
I mean, sure if you want to cross Red Robin with Teen Titans, or Superboy, that works okay because those are the same fanbase generally, but crossing Superboy with Supergirl doesn't work as well because most people as far as I can see are fans of Kon-el separately of being fans of the Supers since Superboy wasn't originally matched up as much with the other Supers but instead with bart, tim, etc...HEAR ME WHINE.
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Date: 2011-01-18 05:37 am (UTC)I like Warren Ellis. That being said, I've noticed that everything he writes is basically the same. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy it- but I don't go into the nergasms that a lot of his fans seem to. He's a great writer but not much of a philosopher if you read him for too long, and I get annoyed when people seem to think he's both. So there's that.
Yeah, the crossing-over of storylines is the other thing that bothers me about trying to keep track of comics. By the time everything's landed in trades it's not only sorted into relatively coherent storylines and pre-packaged for your pleasure, but I can also lurk around various fannish friends and find which ones are good and so not waste my money. It's a pretty decent system.